John Verner is the author of The Cult of Christianity: How Churches Control, Contain, and Convert. This book is about John's experience in the evangelical church and dives into the reasons why he left.

John was kind enough to join us on this episode to dive deeper into why he chose to leave the faith. There were a few moments where we didn't know quite where to go next in this interview, and John certainly gave us a lot to think about. 

Check out John's work by visiting his website, Verner Books. Connect with John on Facebook.

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